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In this episode, Tara takes you behind the scenes of a coaching call to learn which delivery method (online course, online program, hybrid experience) actually sells better. This is a common issue that business owners face as they search for their perfect buyers.

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Hey, welcome to today's episode of the course building

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secrets podcast. I am thrilled that you're here today. In this

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episode, I want to talk about a conversation I had with a client

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today because I think it's totally relevant for everyone

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who is getting in the game, to start to package your services

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or your expertise. And it's a really common sort of challenge

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that people have. And that is, how do you determine what is

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going to sell best, and how to sort of package your program,

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your course your offer in a way that is going to make the most

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impact. So here's the situation. We were on a coaching call

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today. And she happened to mention that one of the people

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that she follows or groups that she's in, they had a guest

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speaker and this guest speaker said that he actually sold more

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when he packaged his expertise into an online course, an

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evergreen online course, then when he tried to sell it as a

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coaching program. And so because of that, she determined that her

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program would be better, and would sell better as an an

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online course. And that may be the case, but it's not always

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the case. And so today's episode, I want to break down,

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kind of the key things to think about when you are in this

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position. Because the reality is, is that your offer is

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whatever your offer is that you make it and you're you're

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attracting people to that offer. So you can attract people to an

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online course. And they'll buy that online course, if it's a

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compelling offer, you can also build a coaching program, and

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attract people to that coaching program. And they will buy, if

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it's a compelling offer, you can also do sort of a hybrid, right,

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like you can do a hybrid program or hybrid experience, which is,

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you know, a lot of the things a lot of times what we're helping

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people build, and that will sell if it's a compelling offer, and

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you have the audience that you've attracted to it. So the

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key point is that

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it's not so much how you deliver your methodology or your

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framework, it is the fact that you have a packaged framework,

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you are tackling a real problem that you then an audience wants

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to solve. And then the way that you're delivering it, is to

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determine the best way for people to get results. So let me

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give you a couple of examples. So the first example is, say

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you're selling a weight loss program.

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And so you could determine that you want to do an on demand,

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you know, 12 week

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fitness course, as an example, right? So somebody goes in, they

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buy it, they do it themselves, they interact with the content

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and your material. Maybe you have some take actions, daily

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accountability, those kinds of things. But it's all packed

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prepackaged.

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So therefore, you're going to go out, and you're going to attract

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people who have the problem of wanting to complete a weight

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loss program completely on demand, and on their own time,

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right. So there's a market for that. And they will buy that,

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that program as long as you are able to find and attract people

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who have that problem, who want solved in that delivery method.

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You're gonna have other people who want to solve that same

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problem, but they need accountability, they need you to

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show up and guide them or hold them accountable. Give them you

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know, some recognition, some

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just some more feedback, right? So there are going to be people

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who are attracted to that model. And they want to go through the

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experience in that way. Right. So it's two different people

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that you're trying to attract. One who is totally internally

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motivated, wants to do it themselves and doesn't

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necessarily need someone to hold them accountable. And someone

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who wants that accountability wants to have that personal kind

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of interaction with a real human right. Same same content, same

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roadmap, right? So what you're teaching is exactly the same,

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but the way that it's being delivered has two different

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audiences or two different approaches that you can sell it

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in, right so it's not so much one is going to sell better than

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the other. It's that when you're selling it, you're targeting,

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you know, one audience versus the other. Right. So when you're

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selling a program lightweight, like weight loss, most people

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have spent their entire lives developing poor habits and poor

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behaviors that they need.

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Need some, some real help unraveling? Right? They need

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somebody to hold them accountable. They need someone

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to remind them to not eat that brownie because they have a

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greater goal. And so is it a better program? In that case to

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have accountability or coaching along with the education?

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Potentially, right? You get to choose that as the creator. And

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as the person who's creating that experience, what is easier

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for your people? What, what guarantees them a better chance

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of succeeding? Well, in this case, probably more of that

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coaching, because you know, that that's necessary for somebody to

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be able to change their, their behavior or their habits. Okay.

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So in that case, then, if that person who was who was speaking,

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when he said, My, my automated course sells better than my

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coaching program, maybe he was selling some other type of

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program, right, maybe he wasn't selling one that you knew, would

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get better results with? Coaching, right? So it all it's

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not apples to apples in terms of comparing what somebody else has

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done and how they've sold their program. So another example

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would be, say you want to teach somebody the skill of building a

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website?

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Okay, well, let's look at that. So if you are trying to teach

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somebody a skill of building a website, could they do that on

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their own without accountability and guidance? Sure, right. You

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could teach them the steps, they could implement the steps, and

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they could successfully build a website, that could be done as

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an online program, right and automated online program. Could

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you also do that as a coaching program? Absolutely. Right. So

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the coaching element to that would be, you're there to answer

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questions, you're there to give feedback on what they've

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created, you're there to give additional tips or help them

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overcome some obstacles or hurdles they may have, maybe

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they're trying to do some coding, and they get stuck, and

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they don't know what to do, you being there in a coaching

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capacity helps them guarantee their success, that they can

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keep moving forward. So again, another scenario where both will

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sell. But

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you know, somebody has to be self motivated to go through it

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in an automated fashion, versus having a coach to the to be

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there to guide them. So no, you know, both scenarios are

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correct. Both scenarios are helpful, you will sell both

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options. But your preference for how you're teaching it and

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delivering it is, is the first criteria to look at like do you

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want to be actively involved through people or not? Right,

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you can create a virtual version of yourself, and really simulate

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a lot of the coaching that you would do in an automated program

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when you when you design the experience correctly. So you

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could provide them with that opportunity to get that

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feedback, to get the answers to the questions when they need

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them. Because you're able to anticipate those is that expert?

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Or do you want to be there? Do you want to walk them through

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it? Do you want to develop a relationship with them? Do you

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want to help them, maybe get a job in web design or something

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else that you're doing in a coaching capacity? First and

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foremost, you get to decide that sales and attracting people

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isn't it's it happens once you determine what you're teaching,

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the roadmap, and the delivery method. It's not a delivery

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method is going to work better than the other in terms of

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attracting new clients to you. So hopefully, this helps you

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because it was a great conversation. And again, it's

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something that is common. I heard somebody say, Well, we

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have to do a course not necessarily, or I heard somebody

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say we have to do a coaching program, I heard somebody say we

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have to do high ticket, we have to do low ticket, we have to do

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this, we have to do that. Right? So if you're following the

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market, or what the gurus are saying, and not sticking to your

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business strategy based on what your goals are, and how do you

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want to deliver your proprietary framework, then you're going to

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fall in this trap of well, so and so said this, and so and so

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so that I don't have enough sales. So I'm gonna flip this

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and do this and change this, when the activity that you're

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working on, around selling is how are you finding the right

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people that are are challenged with the problem that you are

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uniquely qualified to solve in your program, your course your

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coaching, whatever it is you've got going on, right, who want to

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have that solution. That is the focus is finding those people go

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to where they are and establish your authority and, and bring

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them towards you to tell them that you can solve their

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problem. The way that you solve their problem. Depends on how

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you think the best approaches

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To solve that problem, or you know how you're building your

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business model, right?

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It's not about just flipping from one to the other, because

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you haven't been able to successfully sell your program.

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If you're not selling your program, nobody's buying,

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regardless of the way that you are delivering, then it's time

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to look at the offer, right? Because you're either not

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solving a compelling problem that people want solved. Or you

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are not finding the right customers to come in. Right. So

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so like, there's, there's a offer problem, not a delivery

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problem. So whether it's an online course, whether it's an

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online coaching, whether it's a high ticket workshop, whether

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it's an in person mastermind, like it doesn't matter how

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you're delivering it, that is, is secondary to are you bringing

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the right people in who have a problem that you can provide

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them a solution to. And so don't confuse the two, because they're

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not necessarily equal. So when when we were talking about that

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this morning, what was important about the conversation is when

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you're listening to somebody talk about, you know, what's

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working for them, put it through the filter of your business

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goals, right? If you can't, you can't take what somebody else

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has said, as fact, if it doesn't match the your approach and the

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way that you want to run business, you run your business.

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So that's the very first thing is always kind of look through

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that lens of what your goal is. And then also think about, like,

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how do you want to deliver it. And if, again, if you're not

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selling, nobody's buying it, it's not usually a delivery

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problem, you can deliver it as a book, you can deliver it as a

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program, you can deliver it as a workshop, like you can deliver

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it however you want to, but there's a million different ways

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to deliver your program. Typically, that's not the

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problem, people don't say, Well, I'm not gonna buy because I want

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to in this modality, or in this delivery method, that's not

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usually going to be the hiccup that's going to get them to buy

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or not buy.

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And so what's going to get them to buy is that they have a pain,

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and you have the solution, right? You have the painkiller

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that's gonna get them out of pain, or they want the solution

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that you are able to get to them. That is the critical sort

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of factor that that starts first. And then you put them

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into the best delivery method that works for them. And

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typically, it's do it yourself, done with you or done for you,

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right, those are kind of the three big buckets and

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and you'll have different people who will prefer one, one versus

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the other, but it's not driving their decision making. So

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hopefully this serves you

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and provides you just a little bit of clarity. I know that it

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was a conversation that was helpful this morning, in terms

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of just identifying where in the process you should be focused

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and how do you create an experience that incorporates the

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the right things at the right time, so that you can guarantee

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results for your customers. Alright, there you go. Have a